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Post by Admin2 on Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:52 pm

Travers wrote:Davel currently well over the edge with an old old story.

He us the very epitomy of the phrase 'talking bollocks'.

In fact he has an 'S' Level in that.
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Re: Has this case driven some of the McCann supporters over the edge?

Post by Drivel Spotter on Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:30 pm

The supporters,are still completely obsessed with the Cipriano case.Just what good does it think it will do them?

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Post by Drivel Spotter on Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:09 am

e.g. From the one with the bloodline rubbish.

''Gawd, that second trial.  What a farce!

Held in Camera (hope that is the correct expression!) so that the world could not see what was going on.  Hidden away so called Justice.

Poor Leonor, the injustices she has had to endure .... and then that injustice on top.  Makes me weep to think of it all ''




Yet no mention of the murdered daughter.Weeping for a convicted murderer and repeated liar.What does that say of the support for the McCann's.
Here's a response to that rubbish.

'When the Cipriano's are freed, which won't be long now, perhaps the McCann's could offer their help & expertise in the search for Joana.

A website with a donate button, posters & wristbands, that should do it.

I imagine the McCann's will be eager to be associated with them, if the enthusiasm for them by their own supporters is anything to go by.

Seems like a great idea to me, I'm going to suggest this idea on the Find Madeleine Facebook page. I can't see any problem with it.'


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Post by Drivel Spotter on Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:27 am

And there is more from the bloodline banana.

''Meeow!

Pity that Amaral didn't take your advice for dear Heri. He messed up at least two families.''

If the idiot who posted that,or her associates read this,which they do.It was those two families,specifically the parents who were responsible for what happened,not Amaral.

Is there even one McCann supporter on the Justice Forum still in control of the faculties?

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Re: Has this case driven some of the McCann supporters over the edge?

Post by Admin2 on Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:30 am

Well Drivel Spotter, there is one who presents some coherent views, called Carana.

As to the rest, Nada, no chance of reasoned posts.
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Post by GLOBAL MODERATOR on Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:36 am

Drivel Spotter wrote:And there is more from the bloodline banana.

''Meeow!

Pity that Amaral didn't take your advice for dear Heri.  He messed up at least two families.''

If the idiot who posted that,or her associates read this,which they do.It was those two families,specifically the parents who were responsible for what happened,not Amaral.

Is there even one McCann supporter on the Justice Forum still in control of the faculties?

Those two posts from that person have all the hallmarks indicating a psychiatric disorder. Gross.

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Re: Has this case driven some of the McCann supporters over the edge?

Post by Grom on Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:48 am

Some people can cope with reality, but it isn't easy. That, in my opinion, is why others turn to interests or beliefs which help them to deal with the brutality of reality.

Having committed themselves to something (a cult, a conspiracy theory or a hero) those people will defend their beliefs because that's easier and more comfortable than accepting and dealing with reality.

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Post by Travers on Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:58 am

Having both of these individuals on ignore, I miss most of these gems, but it does make life easier
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Post by Admin2 on Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:04 am

I do not envy the one moderator who has to deal with these individuals.

Has that Heriberto even had the decency to apologize to the woman he placed in the media, on the back of his 'theories' ?
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Post by Watcher on Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:57 pm

Admin wrote:I do not envy the one moderator who has to deal with these individuals.

Has that Heriberto even had the decency to apologize to the woman he placed in the media, on the back of his 'theories' ?

Not that I have seen, and I regard that as one of the worst episodes of this entire case - with no thought whatsoever for the safety or reputation of the woman in question, Hairyberko and his gutter press chums named an entirely innocent person as being the woman sought by the police. At a time when halfwits set fire to someone's house because they can't tell the difference between 'paedophile' and 'paediatrician' those idiots could have been responsible for a tragedy
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Re: Has this case driven some of the McCann supporters over the edge?

Post by Watcher on Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:59 pm

Speaking about lunatics, maniac blogger Textusa has tumbled down the hillside into mental illness in her latest diatribe. Worth a laugh
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Post by pathfinder73 on Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:01 pm

Detective Pillowman did not read JW statement but instead outs innocent people. No wonder the supporters rate him so high - they all live in fantasyluzland haha. How many women dressed in purple did he think was hanging outside those apartments? A SMS is logged around the time JT was seen. What a plonker!

The raw telecom data provided to OP TASK shows that the mobile phone attributed to Jane TANNER (0780854191) was in contact with mobile number 07949731844 at 20:30:21 hrs on 3rd May 2007 and again at 09:04:46 hrs on 4th May 2007. Each contact was an 'SMS'. Enquiries are underway to subscribe the '1884’ number. http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE_TANNER_MOBILE.htm

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Post by Grom on Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:18 am

Jane's explanation was that the Gorrods had invited them to a BBQ on Friday to celebrate Mr Gorrod's birthday. She says she texted Mrs Gorrod at 8.30 pm to ask if they should bring anything with them. The text the following day was to say they wouldn't be able to make it.

It seems a funny time to think of texting and I have wondered about Mr Gorrod's d.o.b. now and again.

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Post by Travers on Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:36 am

She would be at the table at that time, so it shows that at least one of them had a mobile phone that night, maybe more.


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Post by Admin2 on Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:14 am

Watcher wrote:Speaking about lunatics, maniac blogger Textusa has tumbled down the hillside into mental illness in her latest diatribe. Worth a laugh

I had a quick look. Very Happy
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Re: Has this case driven some of the McCann supporters over the edge?

Post by Watcher on Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:33 pm

Admin wrote:
Watcher wrote:Speaking about lunatics, maniac blogger Textusa has tumbled down the hillside into mental illness in her latest diatribe. Worth a laugh

I had a quick look. Very Happy

If you fancy a laugh, read 'Barking Mad' first, then 'Barking Mad - the Howling at the Moon years'. I think you'll appreciate it. Very Happy

https://nottextusa.blogspot.co.uk/
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Re: Has this case driven some of the McCann supporters over the edge?

Post by Admin2 on Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:09 pm

Watcher wrote:
Admin wrote:
Watcher wrote:Speaking about lunatics, maniac blogger Textusa has tumbled down the hillside into mental illness in her latest diatribe. Worth a laugh

I had a quick look. Very Happy

If you fancy a laugh, read 'Barking Mad' first, then 'Barking Mad - the Howling at the Moon years'. I think you'll appreciate it.  Very Happy

https://nottextusa.blogspot.co.uk/


Merci. I will have a look.
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Re: Has this case driven some of the McCann supporters over the edge?

Post by AJS on Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:55 pm

“If you fancy a laugh, read 'Barking Mad' first, then 'Barking Mad - the Howling at the Moon years'. I think you'll appreciate it.”

Hello watcher. I read the stuff and, yes, it was a complete destruction job but my overwhelming feeling was of futility. Futility at the effort put in by NT and at the fact that it will have no result whatever in devaluing the nonsense that she writes.

After ten years of people like you and some others carefully excluding stuff with no evidence to support it and carefully including stuff which is irrefutable and cannot be argued away, the result has been zero. The tongues still hang out for b******t, not truth.

In general, as you know better than me, natural science “truth” is cumulative while judicial truth is not: when someone, Textusa say, stands in a bath with a thousand volt potential to it she will turn into a blackened piece of Spanish tosta when the switch is turned on. Every time for the rest of eternity, until only a crumb remains.

But every time a Notextusa power electrode is inserted in Textusa’s nether regions she will simply ignore it, cheat and carry on regardless. As will stopthemyths, the Pit and related places, as will every “truth-seeking” forum and FB page. Nothing can or will ever be established in the McCann case on the internet. Only opined.

Unfortunately, the matter of evidence – where it’s even understood – bores the arse off most people. It isn’t sexy, it takes work, research and seriously hard-thinking, such as you’ve put in, and for non-specialists the evidential chain and the chain of deductive reasoning are very hard to follow: that’s why specialists earn such huge sums.

Lastly, and present company definitely excepted, I’m genuinely unsure how much people are interested in the truth as such; whatever I thought when I was younger, a decade of the McCann affair has made me much more cynical. I think the real human driver, and I’m willing to include myself, is the desire to achieve one’s aims, not the truth – and the former usually precedes “the facts”.

That’s why my heart sinks when people think Gemma O’ D, or any other person can “move this case along”: nothing can move this case along except the airing and evaluation of evidence in the only arena that matters, the one where if you fib to avoid the facts you can end up in the cells.

Still, thanks for a good read.

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Post by Watcher on Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:25 pm

AJS wrote:“If you fancy a laugh, read 'Barking Mad' first, then 'Barking Mad - the Howling at the Moon years'. I think you'll appreciate it.”

Hello watcher. I read the stuff and, yes, it was a complete destruction job but my overwhelming feeling was of futility. Futility at the effort put in by NT and at the fact that it will have no result whatever in devaluing the nonsense that she writes.

After ten years of people like you and some others carefully excluding stuff with no evidence to support it and carefully including stuff which is irrefutable and cannot be argued away, the result has been zero. The tongues still hang out for b******t, not truth.

In general, as you know better than me, natural science “truth” is cumulative while judicial truth is not: when someone, Textusa say, stands in a bath with a thousand volt potential to it she will turn into a blackened piece of Spanish tosta when the switch is turned on. Every time for the rest of eternity, until only a crumb remains.

But every time a Notextusa power electrode is inserted in Textusa’s nether regions she will simply ignore it, cheat and carry on regardless. As will stopthemyths, the Pit and related places, as will every “truth-seeking” forum and FB page. Nothing can or will ever be established in the McCann case on the internet. Only opined.

Unfortunately, the matter of evidence – where it’s even understood – bores the arse off most people. It isn’t sexy, it takes work, research and seriously hard-thinking, such as you’ve put in,  and for non-specialists the evidential chain and the chain of deductive reasoning are very hard to follow: that’s why specialists earn such huge sums.

Lastly, and present company definitely excepted, I’m genuinely unsure how much people are interested in the truth as such; whatever I thought when I was younger, a decade of the McCann affair has made me much more cynical. I think the real human driver, and I’m willing to include myself, is the desire to achieve one’s aims, not the truth – and the former usually precedes “the facts”.

That’s why my heart sinks when people think Gemma O’ D, or any other person  can “move this case along”: nothing can move this case along except the airing and evaluation of evidence  in the only arena that matters, the one where if you fib to avoid the facts you can end up in the cells.

Still, thanks for a good read.

Afternoon AJS

Yes, you are absolutely right.
For the Textusas and Bennetts of this world it is not about the truth, and for some of them I don't think it ever has been. Which is one of the reasons I stopped responding to Textusa a while ago - it was like pissing in the wind. To be absolutely honest, the only reason I am doing so now is because I have a bit of unexpected, enforced downtime, I was bored and it amuses me Wink

I do find some aspects of it interesting, though.

Take Bennett, for example.
The man is a waste of human skin, but he isn't without a certain intellect. So why on earth does he ignore all the verifiable, robust evidence that says that Madeleine was alive and well at 5.30 on the 3rd May in favour of a ludicrous, hydra-like conspiracy based on an anecdotal weather observation? It cannot possibly be because he honestly believes it, so one can only assume that his prime directive is to have his narrative accepted as the only truth.

Precisely the same with Textusa. Her utterly bonkers theory requires the involvement of every worker, guest and inhabitant of PdL, all committing perjury to oblige a couple of rough-arsed medics and is based on the even more preposterous theory that no 'big round table' existed. She is a notorious idiot, but she, like Baldylocks, cannot possibly believe her own nonsense.

I suppose the one compensation is that whoever this Michael Walker character is, he's getting the blame for it all. Small victories Very Happy
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Re: Has this case driven some of the McCann supporters over the edge?

Post by AJS on Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:16 pm

Hi watcher. I love your last paragraph.

You mentioned research on cults. I got into that years and years ago because of some victims I knew. It was noteworthy that followers tended to be more fanatical acting in  defence (and retribution) of their organizations than the leaders themselves, even though it was the latter, of course, who set the former in motion.

Apart from anything else the "king can do no wrong (it is only the wicked advisers)" concept served to make the leaders, from Hubbard down, very careful not to be seen in the act of being nasty to anyone.

When Baldie attacks, for instance - and a very insignificant instance it is - it is so pedestrian and plodding and devoid of real venom (as against shrill bitchiness) that it irritates but never hurts. But some of the stuff that Baldie's victims have thrown at me - and you - for questioning his "research" over the years is full of real, violent hatred for what I've said to them and, presumably, for me as a person too. That always takes me aback.

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Post by Watcher on Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:41 pm

Hi AJS

Absolutely. Just like the classic American TV evangelists of the 1980's who would take to the airways coiffed to within an inch of their lives, and with a dazzling smile and whitened teeth of a Bactrian camel, ask the faithful congregation to part with all their money, prior to driving back to their mansion in a gold Rolls Royce.
Bennett, Textusa and others of their ilk are the modern snake-oil salesmen. My theory is they get off - probably literally in his case - on the admiration and the attention. They don't really care if they're wrong, so long as their followers think they are right. And 'followers' really is the right word; there is no real exchange of ideas, just endorsement for their barmy agenda.
I was reading the tweets of one of Textusa's followers today - they are astonishingly belligerent and aggressive hate-filled rants. That's the kind of thing she and Baldylocks create. Dreadful people.
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Post by Ayfive on Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:43 pm

Watcher wrote:Hi AJS

Absolutely. Just like the classic American TV evangelists of the 1980's who would take to the airways coiffed to within an inch of their lives, and with a dazzling smile and whitened teeth of a Bactrian camel, ask the faithful congregation to part with all their money, prior to driving back to their mansion in a gold Rolls Royce.
Bennett, Textusa and others of their ilk are the modern snake-oil salesmen. My theory is they get off - probably literally in his case - on the admiration and the attention. They don't really care if they're wrong, so long as their followers think they are right. And 'followers' really is the right word; there is no real exchange of ideas, just endorsement for their barmy agenda.
I was reading the tweets of one of Textusa's followers today - they are astonishingly belligerent and aggressive hate-filled rants. That's the kind of thing she and Baldylocks create. Dreadful people.  

Two questions come to mind.
1)Why?
2)Were you really that short of laughs? I find Bugs Bunny or I Am Weasel good for a laugh.

I recall a conversation with a work colleague about The Moonies, so that must have been pushing 40 years ago. It went a long the lines of "if they approached me they would receive short shrift". At which point my colleague said "That is the whole point T; they would not approach you because these people are trained to recognise those who are vulnerable and susceptible, the "recruiters" tend not to waste their time on people like you who they are also trained to recognise".

Extend to its logical conclusion.... Shocked
I am far too polite to say that each side has more than it's fair share of brainless, follower, fruit cakes and even the self appointed leaders could not lead a cat to cat mint on the best day they ever had.... Laughing
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Post by Admin2 on Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:02 am

The McStupid supporters such as Misty and Beer Batter, seem fixated on discussing corruption in Portugal, which has absolutely nothing to do with the McCann case.

WHY ?
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Post by Travers on Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:39 am

Admin wrote:The McStupid supporters such as Misty and Beer Batter, seem fixated on discussing corruption in Portugal, which has absolutely nothing to do with the McCann case.

WHY ?

It allows them to dream that the McCanns only lost their court case due to corrupt judiciary.
Does nothing to change the reality of the situation, but what the hell, they can dream. It's all they have.
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Post by Admin2 on Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:09 pm

Travers wrote:
Admin wrote:The McStupid supporters such as Misty and Beer Batter, seem fixated on discussing corruption in Portugal, which has absolutely nothing to do with the McCann case.

WHY ?

It allows them to dream that the McCanns only lost their court case due to corrupt judiciary.
Does nothing to change the reality of the situation, but what the hell, they can dream. It's all they have.

I do wonder if some of them have the fantasy that all the McCann's reverses of the last few years will be wiped out and everything will be nice in the garden. lol!
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